(Denver WestWord) The focus of this dust-up is “Allen St. Pierre on Medical Marijuana,” published by Steve Bloom’s Celebstoner.com website on January 5. The piece, on view in its entirety below, begins with a bold statement: “Defending the ‘medical’ cannabis industry is so yesterday. Why not acknowledge the political and legal farce it is and focus on the real problem at hand: ending cannabis prohibition?” From there, St. Pierre describes medical marijuana as a “sham” on par with prescription alcohol during the 1920s liquor-prohibition era, accuses the MMJ industry of opposing broader legalization efforts like California’s Proposition 19, and maintains that cannabis consumers should be able to get “good, affordable cannabis products without having to go through the insult and expense of ‘qualifying’ as a ‘medical’ patient by paying physicians and/or the state for some kind of get-out-of-jail-free card.”
In the wake of these words, Edson, his wife Georgia and Mile High NORML director Scott Greene have resigned from the organization. But while the post makes it seem as if St. Pierre wrote an essay on the topic with the intention of widely disseminating his views, these remarks were never meant for public consumption. Instead, they were written as a note to James Clark, a California-based attorney who’s part of a LISTSERV for the NORML legal committee — an electronic mailing list whose members include approximately 450 lawyers across the country.
After receiving the material from Edson, Bloom says he got in touch with St. Pierre to make sure the comments were genuine, and gave St. Pierre the opportunity to edit them.
“I wrote back and said, ‘I don’t want to edit something people have seen. It would make it look like I was changing what I said,’” St. Pierre recalls.
Nonetheless, some edits were made — but by Bloom, not St. Pierre. Bloom took out small portions that specifically referred to Clark, including this line: “James, you can certainly choose to defend a system that benefits those who are largely gaming the system.” The original document is also on view below, providing the opportunity to compare and contrast.
“I also said I’d rather [Bloom] not publish it, because it was an internal discussion — just a dashed-off note,” St. Pierre continues. “And he said, ‘I think I’m going to publish it as is.’ And I said, ‘I hope you put it in the proper context.’ But then it gets published, and it has my name on it and the note, and that’s all. So a reader would probably think I was trying to be unnecessarily provocative.”
Here is the LISTSERVE piece in its entirety. I’ve used strikeout to indicate the portions that Bloom removed and boldface to indicate the additions Bloom made… you can decide if the edits changed the tone of this private email response on a specific topic to a specific lawyer:
Allen St. Pierre on Medical Marijuana
Hello James,
Kicking my friends or encouraging them to please wake up from their hazy field of dreams?Defending the ‘medical’ cannabis industry is so yesterday
(unless you’ve been hired to legally defend a dispensary or to establish one…). Why not acknowledge the political and legal farce it is and focus on theREALreal problem at hand…: ending Cannabis Prohibition?The law and court precedents are fairly clear here.
…Self-preservation (yes)…., large scale cultivation and sales (no).It is just this simple.
The numerous actions by the feds and state govts in the last two weeks make this abundantly clear:
*ATF memo (no Second Amendment rights for patients)
*Feds crack down on banks doing business with CBCs (cannabis buyer’s clubs)
*Feds send forfeiture notice to CBC landlords
*Feds send warnings to local CBCs that they must move or shut because they’re within 1,000 of federally subsidized school
*IRS 280E decision against HHC (can the current retail industry survive this blow?)
*Feds send shut down notices to 25% of the CBCs in San DiegoAnd what
MOREmore re-assertion of primacy will we get today from the feds?If this were the 1920s,
youradvocacy ofthetoday’s ‘medical’ cannabis industryof todaywould sound like a lawyer back then fronting for the legal sellers of ‘prescription’ alcohol during Alcohol Prohibition.(whoThe med-pot industry, of course,opposedopposes actual legalization…just likesuch as last year’s Prop 19, which was also opposed by thepot prohibitionprofiteering communities in the state’s northern ‘grow’ counties).Prescriptive alcohol was a sham then, the ‘medical’ cannabis industry (not medical cannabis itself) is largely a sham now.
Is this news? NORML, and lawyers like Bill Panzer, have been warning ganjapreneurs and their legal counsel at our seminars and conferences about this political and legal box canyon since at least 2002.
Cannabis consumers, who NORML represents, want good, affordable cannabis products without having to go through the insult and expense of
having to ‘qualify’qualifying as a ‘medical’ patient by paying physicians and/or the state for some kind of ‘get out of jail free’ card.How intellectually honest is all of this?
James, you can certainly choose to defend a system that benefits those who are largely gaming the system, however,NORML prefers to take a more honest and transparent approach that advocates that cannabis should be legal for all adult consumers, including healthy ones.
;D)
KIND regards,
– Allen
NORMLAllen St. Pierre is the executive director of NORML
So what you have here is Allen writing a response on a private LISTSERVE to a lawyer who questioned Allen’s posting of an op-ed by a California cop that described medical marijuana in California as a farce and a sham. Then another lawyer in Colorado who defends the medmj industry took offense, feeling Allen was demeaning his clients. This is back in October. Then that Colorado lawyer takes the text off the private LISTSERVE and begins distributing it to as many people as he can as part of his own agenda to discredit Allen. Steve Bloom finally takes takes the bait this month and splashes the edited, out-of-context email all over his website as if it were a public pronouncement from NORML, leading to re-posts on other cannabis websites and countless angry denunciations and spirited defenses in the comments sections.
These actions were taken by people who considered themselves proponents of legalization and big supporters of NORML. Gosh, with friends like these…


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“While I use cannabis mostly medically…”
“…tortuous facade of MMJ…”
Which is it?
Still in damage control mode. It appears 2011/12 will mark a true turning point for NORML.
Things might have not gotten so out of hand if the first line of defense hadn’t been to stress that Allen’s email had been meant only for viewing by a limited group of “insiders”. The sanctity of the LISTSERVE was breached, and the resulting circus was reminiscent of the WIKI-LEAKS fiasco.
Allen’s words stung. Most of the activists I know aren’t wealthy. We can’t donate to every organization, so we give to whomever we feel best represents us. For MMJ patients, ASA is a good organization, but we still donated to NORML first, because we believed medical access would pave the way for understanding marijuana’s benefits and unique safety, and NORML seemed open to that philosophy.
We’re trying hard not to feel betrayed. NORML has done so much good, and MMJ patients could always depend upon NORML to be our best friend in the past.
Perhaps Allen would consider publishing an open letter to MMJ patients, reassuring them of NORML’s continued commitment to promoting safe and legal access to medical cannabis for suffering patients, along with equal support for the end of industrial hemp prohibition and the war on adult personal use. We need to know we are not being abandoned.
I’m the first to applaud NORML’s efforts which were powerful components in bringing about MMJ programs. I shudder to think where the laws would be now, had NORML never existed.
If the medical cannabis industry is a “sham” now, isn’t NORML, at the very least, partially responsible? After all, you guys wrote the book on marijuana law reform.
We’ve all looked to NORML for leadership, and it’s a very good time to show it still can.
I hope Allen is suing the
out of Steve. Everything Allen said (in context) was absolutely true… While I use cannabis mostly medically at present, there are times when everyone needs to have a safe social experience. Somebody (okay, everybody!) needs to loosen up and see the big picture. Patients will be treated like criminals just as are the rest of us responisible consumers of the safest social facilitator on Earth, until the farce of prohibition and the tortuous facade of MMJ is finally ended.
Correction: the quote by Keith should read “for not-medical reasons.”
I’m a huge fan of Allen. (You come in second, no offense.) He is extremely bright, funny, well-spoken, a philosopher, scholar, and gentleman—his style is entertaining and provocative. When he speaks, everyone listens.
Incidentally, just before I checked this blog, I was reading an article on opposingviews.com regarding Steve DeAngelo and his “no recreational” “all use is wellness” parsing of language, which you have covered at length. With all the rampant abuses, the opposingviews article wrote “The more you try to tell the public to disbelieve their own two eyes and call recreational use ‘medical,’ the more they think the ‘medical’ thing is a ruse just to bring about recreational use.” I also recall a phone interview you did with Keith Stroup last year at NORML’s big 40th anniversary, where he said, I quote, “I think it was always a mistake for those who thought that somehow the medical use issue will be our way to finally get to full legalization for all adults… First off that would be dishonest, we need to win the political point… We shouldn’t be asking a doctor for permission to smoke it for medical reasons, that’s dishonest.” But with such rampant dishonesty throughout the industry, the “not all but many,” it’s deplorable how the lawyer “missed the forest for the trees” and decided disgustingly to smear Allen for pointing out a gorilla in the room.
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