This K2 will only hurt you if you try to climb it.
ST. LOUIS (St. Louis University) – In the last month, Anthony Scalzo, M.D., professor of toxicology at Saint Louis University, has seen nearly 30 cases involving teenagers who were experiencing hallucinations, severe agitation, elevated heart rate and blood pressure, vomiting and, in some cases, tremors and seizures. All of these teens had smoked a dangerous, yet legal substance known as K2 or “fake weed.”
According to Scalzo, K2, an unregulated mixture of dried herbs, is growing in popularity because it is legal, purported to give a high similar to marijuana and believed to be natural and therefore safe.
“K2 may be a mixture of herbal and spice plant products, but it is sprayed with a potent psychotropic drug and likely contaminated with an unknown toxic substance that is causing many adverse effects. These toxic chemicals are neither natural nor safe,” said Scalzo, who also directs the Missouri Regional Poison Control Center at SSM Cardinal Glennon Children’s Medical Center.
What makes K2 so dangerous? Further testing is needed, but Scalzo says the symptoms, such as fast heart beat, dangerously elevated blood pressure, pale skin and vomiting suggest that K2 is affecting the cardiovascular system of users. It also is believed to affect the central nervous system, causing severe, potentially life-threatening hallucinations and, in some cases, seizures.
While JWH 018, a synthetic man-made drug, similar to cannabis, may be responsible for the hallucinations, Scalzo suspects that there is another unknown toxic chemical being sprayed on K2.
Do you really, really want to stop people from smoking K2? Legalize cannabis. Only prohibition could create a system where people are so desperate for access to a safe, effective, non-toxic natural relaxant that they’ll smoke a new, synthetic, untested substitute with no consistency of effect and control over the ingredients.
The other pressure leading people to K2 is employment pee testing, which detects a THC metabolite called THC-COOH. Current tests do not detect metabolites of JWH-018 and it would be prohibitively expensive for drug testing companies to begin to do so. Even if they did, JWH-018 is but one of many possible synthetic cannabinoids, so any attempt to police JWH-018 metabolites will just lead to an “arms race” where consumers keep trying newer, more exotic synthetic cannabinoids.
Although there are many replies on here about most of the same stuff, I too, have had a bad experience with this K2 shit. I’ve had my share of “real weed” smoking, although I do not smoke anymore because I want to have a clear mind. A friend and I decided to smoke the legal stuff a couple nights ago. We have friends that have smoked it constantly for weeks upon weeks, and none of them have had anything bad to say about it. I have tried it once before, and I was completely fine. It seems as though people either try it once, and have a horrible experience, or have smoked it religiously and suddenly they experience a horrible trip. Anyway, we rolled a blunt of it, and smoked. It was a good time, and the “high” only lasted for an hour tops. She left my apartment, ( mind you, I am 19 and live by myself), I decided to smoke the rest of the blunt to myself before I went to bed. I smoked it, and felt fine, and suddenly it just went downhill. Like most people on here, I started to feel out of touch with reality. Every time I turned my head, it was like movie slides, and everything was slow motion. I tried to make some food, because I hadn’t eaten all day, but I couldn’t get myself too. It felt as though all motor functions were decreasing. I began to get extremely cold so I got into bed. My heartbeat started to increase by the minute and it felt as though, no joke, it was coming out of my chest. I was staring at the ceiling, with tears coming down my face, praying to God to keep me alive. My mouth immediately got completely dry, and I began to get cold sweats as well. I picked up my phone, although my hands were shaking terribly, and I got my friend on the phone (who was there prior to this). She lives close, so she came over and kept me company. Thankfully the high began to decrease and I went to sleep. My friend told me the next day that I was completely pale, shaking, and my heart beat was outrageous. I have experienced bad highs before on “real weed”, where I kind of psych myself out, but I have NEVER ever felt this way before. This stuff is bullshit, and I can’t believe our government is so fucked up that they can’t see how many people have had bad experiences with this. I told my brother what happened, and his friend recently died after smoking this stuff, and killed himself. If it has to get to that point, it is no good. Please, please, do not smoke this shit. It’s really not worth your health, better yet, your life.
Check out youtube video called “Synthetic Marijuana Aka K2 Kills Young Man Who Dies In His Mother’s Arms! Spice”, which was uploaded by youtuber “Inspirational Footage” on January 21, 2012.
This is talk show documentation of K2 causing death.
my friend justnhad one but in regard to him quitting how long did withdrawl last
each one of us owns our own body we can put into it or take out of it what we will .whether its wheather its organically grown or synthetically made . next , due to low organs at the hospitals , they will make it mandatory for each of us to donate our organs upon our departure .
I should also add (got sidetracked and forgot the main reason I wanted to reply to your reply) that I also don’t know how we will get out of this mess, but I believe we will. I think the most important thing is faith. If you can believe we will, hold onto that thought, turn it into a feeling and pump it out with all your might, then you’re probably doing as much as you or anyone can, and if everyone does this, I believe, we will get out of it sometime, somehow; God only knows how and when, but I believe we will. I will it.
Questioning and resisting cannabis prohibition, which is so obviously a perverse and immoral manifestation of any authority which could initiate and support it, it seems to me, is a most practical way doing something more than simply praying. You can latch onto this and dig your teeth into it, like a dog with a bone, with complete confidence and beyond the faintest shadow of any doubt, because it is so obviously wrong. As Antonio Maria Costa, the former Under-Secretary-General of the United Nations and long-serving Executive Director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) once put it in one of his more candid moments, “Cannabis is the most vulnerable point of the whole multilateral edifice.” We need to make most effective use of that weakness in the hope of bringing the entire amoral house of cards tumbling down. Then the hard work of building something better may begin. That’s the hard part. It’s easier to destroy than it is to build. I think this is why so many people are, quite justifiably and sensibly, afraid to put their weight behind efforts to collapse a stable state, however perverse it may appear. What if we’re wrong?
That’s why finding and standing your ground against something so obviously wrong, like prohibiting access to one of God’s greatest gifts to man, i.e. cannabis in this case, is so important. I suppose, more than anything, it depends which side you’re on – who’s your God and who’s your Satan? Has Satan ever had the power to create life forms, like (medicinal) plants? Not as far as I’m aware. I can stand behind that and feel quite comfortable applying my weight to it.
And I, somewhat unsurprisingly, completely agree with you.
I would like to point out, however, that this plant is not just, “…a symbol of American freedom stolen.” it is, in fact and more accurately, a symbol of a mentality which has been exported throughout the world. Unfortunately, this symbol has come to be associated with America, not least because of the disproportionate effort the US applies to inspiring and enforcing the mentality which produced the 1961 Narcotics Conventions (and their subsequent revisions and extensions, e.g. Nixon’s ‘War on Drugs’). Have a look at this article, http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/02/01/married-couple-gets-life-for-possessing-planting-cannabis/ – life imprisonment and corporal punishment for a married couple with two young kids – to get an idea of the sort of morality America is perceived to inspire and support.
I completely agree, McD. You hit the nail on the head. It was confirmed the next day Demi Moore had smoked spice and had the same symptoms as many of the others here have. It can be a horrifying experience to smoke this mind-poison. Enough to call emergency medical services! Today I was driving around when the NPR show, “Democracy Now” was airing. The documentary they were discussing was called, “The House I Live In,” which just won the Sundance Grand Jury Award. It is about the failure of the American Drug War. I hope to see it. Check it out people, this is a film that reflects NORML people. There are lots of other great documentaries on marijuana – a lot of them are on Netflix. The more educated you become on the history of marijuana, hopefully you’ll really realize that this medicinal plant is a symbol of American freedom stolen . We are not the free country everyone has been brainwashed to believe. I pledge allegiance to the …. whatever. They made one of the greatest gifts of nature illegal,then they pollute the skies, the water, the dirt with their chemicals, their PCBs, their BP oil spills and corexit, they poison us with their pharmaceuticals,.. I could go on forever. Meanwhile the soldiers in Afghanistan are protecting opium fields for Big Pharma. I really don’t know how humanity is going to get out of this mess.
Yeah, I saw that.
Wouldn’t it be great if she found the balls to actually come out and say, ‘Yeah, I did it because there was no cannabis around, due to its illegality, and I thought this might work as a substitute. If only cannabis weren’t perversely prohibited, this would never have happened (and I bet a lot of people who’ve suffered for the same mistake don’t get such high quality medical attention as I have).’!
I just read an article about Demi Moore’s emergency 911 call that sent her to the hospital with seizures/convulsions. Previous news stories said she was doing “whip-its” (sucking nitrous oxide from a canister), however, I just read in one article that during the 911 call, her un-named friend alluded to her “smoking something” that caused this. The article stated that Moore smoked “incense”. We know here that incense is also known as K2, and many have had seizures, speeding heart rate, heart palpitations or throbbing heart beat, and hallucinations from it. She was probably trying to just relax with friends and this happened because of that horrible incense/K2 poison. Do not do it – it makes you totally psychotic, like you’ve gone insane. And that nightmarish feeling lasts for an hour or more.
I smoked k2 da space cadet n nw im havin trouble breathing i cnt catch my breath when im sleepin n yesterday i kept vomiting i shake sumtymes n my sleep n fell out twice i encourage ppl nt to smoke it
Say what ever …why would I lieabout something slo serious and put my son in it if u read little more about k2 k3 alot of ppl experice the same shit arourld the world. U fucking idiot…sense u think everyone lying maybe ur the only one lying