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	<title>Comments on: NAACP panel: Should marijuana be legalized, and how would it impact African-Americans?</title>
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		<title>By: Radical Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radical Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on the language, of course.  Rep. Barney Frank&#039;s bill would decriminalize personal possession of up to 3.5 ounces and the non-profit transfer of up to one ounce for all adults 21 and over.  But that&#039;s just at the federal level.  States would still be free to be as punitive as they wished, so perhaps Oregonians would be free to carry some weed but Oklahomans would still do decades for a roach.  This also doesn&#039;t address cultivation; presumably the feds could still bust you for that.  If 3.5 ounces of pot fell from the sky in your hands, you&#039;d be OK, but if you&#039;re harvesting 3.5 ounces off of a plant, the feds could still bust you.  Practically, though, the feds don&#039;t really care much about people growing &lt;100 plants, because it&#039;s not worth the cost in money and time for how little time they put you behind bars (the mandatory minimum goes up at 100 plants).

Now, if Sen. Webb gets traction on prison reform and kills those mandatory minimum laws, now we&#039;re talking.  With the possibility of prosecutors getting juries to decide technical guilt, only to have a sympathetic judge let the poor senior pot farmers go with probation and time served, it will be much harder for the feds to go after even larger grows.  That combined with people in the West Coast, Northeast, and Great Lakes Region having greater access and not fearing small-time possession will lead to more acceptance and eventual legalization in a few states.  The minute one state falls, the whole house of drug war cards falls, because the incredible industry and tax revenues and tourism it will create (few of these legalization estimates consider a hemp industry, for example) will be irresistible to their neighbors.

I also foresee some hidden societal changes few people talk about.  A brain and talent drain.  Smarter talented people choose cannabis, generally speaking.  The internet and personal computers would not exist without acid-trippin&#039; potheads.  Go check your music collection and delete the ones who ever smoked weed - and you&#039;ll get the talent part.  It only makes sense that when you try alcohol and try pot that you&#039;d try to moderate the former in favor of the latter; your body at age 60 will thank you for it.  So as states begin legalizing, the smart talented people start migrating.

But also, a drain of hard working blue collar people and talented athletes.  If California legalizes, how do employers and state athletic boards justify continuing to test for its inactive metabolites in urine screens?  It&#039;s not evidence of impairment, enhancement, or (after legalization) doing anything illegal.  There will be a backlash, of course, from the reefer-mad who predict a workplace apocalypse from the stoned worker and a fork lift or whatever, but activists (if they&#039;re smart, which they are) will push toward electronic impairment testing that actually gets the impaired, not the smoked-a-joint-last-weekend worker who&#039;s just fine.

Smoking in public, however, I don&#039;t see becoming accepted, considering the militancy against tobacco smoking.  I do think there will be some outdoor events that will &quot;smoking allowed&quot;, though.

Does that answer your questions?  Feel free to ask more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on the language, of course.  Rep. Barney Frank&#8217;s bill would decriminalize personal possession of up to 3.5 ounces and the non-profit transfer of up to one ounce for all adults 21 and over.  But that&#8217;s just at the federal level.  States would still be free to be as punitive as they wished, so perhaps Oregonians would be free to carry some weed but Oklahomans would still do decades for a roach.  This also doesn&#8217;t address cultivation; presumably the feds could still bust you for that.  If 3.5 ounces of pot fell from the sky in your hands, you&#8217;d be OK, but if you&#8217;re harvesting 3.5 ounces off of a plant, the feds could still bust you.  Practically, though, the feds don&#8217;t really care much about people growing &lt;100 plants, because it&#8217;s not worth the cost in money and time for how little time they put you behind bars (the mandatory minimum goes up at 100 plants).</p>
<p>Now, if Sen. Webb gets traction on prison reform and kills those mandatory minimum laws, now we&#8217;re talking.  With the possibility of prosecutors getting juries to decide technical guilt, only to have a sympathetic judge let the poor senior pot farmers go with probation and time served, it will be much harder for the feds to go after even larger grows.  That combined with people in the West Coast, Northeast, and Great Lakes Region having greater access and not fearing small-time possession will lead to more acceptance and eventual legalization in a few states.  The minute one state falls, the whole house of drug war cards falls, because the incredible industry and tax revenues and tourism it will create (few of these legalization estimates consider a hemp industry, for example) will be irresistible to their neighbors.</p>
<p>I also foresee some hidden societal changes few people talk about.  A brain and talent drain.  Smarter talented people choose cannabis, generally speaking.  The internet and personal computers would not exist without acid-trippin&#8217; potheads.  Go check your music collection and delete the ones who ever smoked weed &#8211; and you&#8217;ll get the talent part.  It only makes sense that when you try alcohol and try pot that you&#8217;d try to moderate the former in favor of the latter; your body at age 60 will thank you for it.  So as states begin legalizing, the smart talented people start migrating.</p>
<p>But also, a drain of hard working blue collar people and talented athletes.  If California legalizes, how do employers and state athletic boards justify continuing to test for its inactive metabolites in urine screens?  It&#8217;s not evidence of impairment, enhancement, or (after legalization) doing anything illegal.  There will be a backlash, of course, from the reefer-mad who predict a workplace apocalypse from the stoned worker and a fork lift or whatever, but activists (if they&#8217;re smart, which they are) will push toward electronic impairment testing that actually gets the impaired, not the smoked-a-joint-last-weekend worker who&#8217;s just fine.</p>
<p>Smoking in public, however, I don&#8217;t see becoming accepted, considering the militancy against tobacco smoking.  I do think there will be some outdoor events that will &#8220;smoking allowed&#8221;, though.</p>
<p>Does that answer your questions?  Feel free to ask more.</p>
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		<title>By: The drug war policy Barack Obama should have urged on the NAACP &#187; Your Brain On Bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>The drug war policy Barack Obama should have urged on the NAACP &#187; Your Brain On Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NAACP did have debate on legalizing cannabis, as reported by Radical Russ Belville in Norml&#8217;s .... This debate, however, did not seem to recognize the drug war policies so devastating to the black [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NAACP did have debate on legalizing cannabis, as reported by Radical Russ Belville in Norml&#8217;s &#8230;. This debate, however, did not seem to recognize the drug war policies so devastating to the black [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uzumaki Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uzumaki Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone explain if marijuana were to be legalized. How this would effect people without a medicinal license? Would it be worth still getting or not? What kind of effect will it have on harvesting and would smoking in public be accepted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain if marijuana were to be legalized. How this would effect people without a medicinal license? Would it be worth still getting or not? What kind of effect will it have on harvesting and would smoking in public be accepted?</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares how it will effect just African-Americans! Do they care how it will effect  
non-african-AMERICANS!  This is just another example of how the african community is trying to seperate the American Community.  I didnt watch the video because they will never help me in anyway or listen to what I have to say because I am not African-American...Im just an American! 
(sorry to distract from the Bigger issue here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares how it will effect just African-Americans! Do they care how it will effect<br />
non-african-AMERICANS!  This is just another example of how the african community is trying to seperate the American Community.  I didnt watch the video because they will never help me in anyway or listen to what I have to say because I am not African-American&#8230;Im just an American!<br />
(sorry to distract from the Bigger issue here)</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man who speaks at the end makes no sense.  He appears to be arguing that if it is re-legalized kids will be forced to smoke and that parents will be forced to sit back and watch.

Nobody is advocating that the youth be allowed to consume. But if responsible adults &quot;dictate&quot; that it is acceptable for themselves in they&#039;re home why should the courts tell them how to live.

If a smoker of the herb is commiting no crime other than the smoking of the herb.....

What&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who speaks at the end makes no sense.  He appears to be arguing that if it is re-legalized kids will be forced to smoke and that parents will be forced to sit back and watch.</p>
<p>Nobody is advocating that the youth be allowed to consume. But if responsible adults &#8220;dictate&#8221; that it is acceptable for themselves in they&#8217;re home why should the courts tell them how to live.</p>
<p>If a smoker of the herb is commiting no crime other than the smoking of the herb&#8230;..</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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