Most of the weapons that the Mexican drug cartels have and use are not even available in the US, at least in any quantity. ie. full-auto machine guns and grenades. How many of these do you see in gun stores around the country?
Adding more forces – both US and Mexico – will only make matters worse. Ending prohibition is the only way to stop the violence.
I disagree with the calls for violence here. The British colonial government in India knew only violence, but the Crown was forced to give up dictatorial control over India thanks in no small part to the peaceful activities of Gandhi and his followers, including the salt manufacture which I feel is the principle upon which the home cultivation of cannabis is based as a form of civil protest.
Also think of how the civil rights marchers were attacked with water cannons, vicious dogs, and billy clubs, thrown in jail, denied access to higher education and the peaceful movement did far more for the cause than did the more violence prone sectors of the Black liberation movement. I honestly believe groups such as the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam set the civil rights movement back more than they advanced it. Remember that although MLK was investigated by the government, the public knowledge of his complete non-violence made him completely impossible to smear and the entire movement by association.
They will never understand. We have take matters into our on hands. We have to crack break their skulls in order to put some sense in their rotten brains.
I disagree. No violence on our part is called for. We hold the moral high ground and lose it once the violence starts. That’s what’s so honorable about our herb, it brings people together and mellows them out.
We’re winning, but it takes time. Prohibition didn’t happen overnight; it was enacted state by state for about forty years before the feds followed suit. It will be undone the same way, state by state. Oregon decriminalized in 1973. Forty years from that is 2013. Oregon and California (and may Massachusetts) will be knocking on the legalization door strongly in 2010 and 2012.
You know that the only to get the attention of the Fed is probably going to be by fighting fire with fire, because Violence is all this government knows. We can’t even solve the problems on our own border’s without violent methods.What kind of example are we setting for the world. This ain’t Amsterdam baby, we live by the sword, and we will die by the sword.
What a hipocrit! He says, “we have to lower the demand for drugs from Mexico.” And yet legalization isn’t even a plausable thought Mr. Prez? So what is? Is the government going to act more like Maliasia and just start executing dealers and users? Why no? The government already makes a point to take most of your life after a bust, why not the whole thing?
I’ll say it again, My grandfather used to say, “the only reason alcohol is legal while weed remained illegal is that Pot Heads aren’t violent enough.”
No we aren’t violent, but the cartels and domestic dealers combined with SWAT & the DEA are militant enough. Just like prohibition of alcohol, violence is in the manufacture & distribution; not necessarily in the consumption.
President Obama’s “Al Capone” comments on CBS Face the Nation
BTW, the 90% figure he mentioned about guns flowing south is completely false. It’s 17%. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/04/02/myth-percent-guns-mexico-fraction-number-claimed/
Most of the weapons that the Mexican drug cartels have and use are not even available in the US, at least in any quantity. ie. full-auto machine guns and grenades. How many of these do you see in gun stores around the country?
Adding more forces – both US and Mexico – will only make matters worse. Ending prohibition is the only way to stop the violence.
The FOX News 17% figure is also completely false. See http://stash.norml.org/90-of-guns-in-mexican-drug-war-come-from-us-or-not/
I disagree with the calls for violence here. The British colonial government in India knew only violence, but the Crown was forced to give up dictatorial control over India thanks in no small part to the peaceful activities of Gandhi and his followers, including the salt manufacture which I feel is the principle upon which the home cultivation of cannabis is based as a form of civil protest.
Also think of how the civil rights marchers were attacked with water cannons, vicious dogs, and billy clubs, thrown in jail, denied access to higher education and the peaceful movement did far more for the cause than did the more violence prone sectors of the Black liberation movement. I honestly believe groups such as the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam set the civil rights movement back more than they advanced it. Remember that although MLK was investigated by the government, the public knowledge of his complete non-violence made him completely impossible to smear and the entire movement by association.
They will never understand. We have take matters into our on hands. We have to crack break their skulls in order to put some sense in their rotten brains.
I disagree. No violence on our part is called for. We hold the moral high ground and lose it once the violence starts. That’s what’s so honorable about our herb, it brings people together and mellows them out.
We’re winning, but it takes time. Prohibition didn’t happen overnight; it was enacted state by state for about forty years before the feds followed suit. It will be undone the same way, state by state. Oregon decriminalized in 1973. Forty years from that is 2013. Oregon and California (and may Massachusetts) will be knocking on the legalization door strongly in 2010 and 2012.
You know that the only to get the attention of the Fed is probably going to be by fighting fire with fire, because Violence is all this government knows. We can’t even solve the problems on our own border’s without violent methods.What kind of example are we setting for the world. This ain’t Amsterdam baby, we live by the sword, and we will die by the sword.
What a hipocrit! He says, “we have to lower the demand for drugs from Mexico.” And yet legalization isn’t even a plausable thought Mr. Prez? So what is? Is the government going to act more like Maliasia and just start executing dealers and users? Why no? The government already makes a point to take most of your life after a bust, why not the whole thing?
I’ll say it again, My grandfather used to say, “the only reason alcohol is legal while weed remained illegal is that Pot Heads aren’t violent enough.”
I never thought of it in that prespective!
No we aren’t violent, but the cartels and domestic dealers combined with SWAT & the DEA are militant enough. Just like prohibition of alcohol, violence is in the manufacture & distribution; not necessarily in the consumption.