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	<title>Comments on: Worcester, Massachusetts, wants bigger pot penalties than Question 2 allows</title>
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	<description>The Growing Truth About Cannabis</description>
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		<title>By: Bud Hasherdashery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Hasherdashery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget when it is convenient, both local and state laws will be ignored in favor of the national law...IE....in California, Governor Arnold can EVICT THE DEA, and end the harrassment of all those involved in the Medical Marijuana industry...he just refuses to take that manly stand, choosing instead to be subservient too the DEA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget when it is convenient, both local and state laws will be ignored in favor of the national law&#8230;IE&#8230;.in California, Governor Arnold can EVICT THE DEA, and end the harrassment of all those involved in the Medical Marijuana industry&#8230;he just refuses to take that manly stand, choosing instead to be subservient too the DEA.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Gardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Gardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the right venue for criminal law is the *COUNTY* level.  The reason I saw this is the the municipal level might encourage too much of a patchwork of different laws.  So you could imagine a problem with toking-and-driving or a lot of police chases to the town line.  Counties are a little bit more socially homogenous.

Ultimately, however, Russ&#039;s post shows that there is an enduring problem that can&#039;t simply be solved by where we draw jurisdictional lines.  Is adult cannabis use harmful?  (No.)  Is stopping adult cannabis use a worthy use of limited law enforcement resources?  (No.)  In the end, these questions have to be resolved as a matter of policy and competing views have to do battle on the field of democratic deliberation.  So far we haven&#039;t won that war yet.

I think the first thing is to convince people that we cannabis advocates also want to protect their children.  So we might have to say something like, &quot;instead of coming down on 26 year olds who enjoy their spare time with Bud instead of Budweiser, we want to concentrate all our efforts on increased penalties and enforcement for dealing to kids.&quot;  If we could convince people that this would be a MORE effective way to keep drugs out of kids&#039; hands--e.g., increased vigilance/enforcement while turning weed into something boring that adults do, like wine--then we&#039;d be half-way to victory.

Once we convince majorities that we&#039;ll protect kids, it&#039;s a simple step (I&#039;m convinced) to say that prosecuting adults for use of cannabis is just a waste of resources that actually retards, and does not advance, public safety.

Marijuana is not meth.  It&#039;s not coke.  It&#039;s not PCP.

We need a realistic, sensible, efficient marijuana policies that respects adults&#039; privacy and adults&#039; choices.

Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the right venue for criminal law is the *COUNTY* level.  The reason I saw this is the the municipal level might encourage too much of a patchwork of different laws.  So you could imagine a problem with toking-and-driving or a lot of police chases to the town line.  Counties are a little bit more socially homogenous.</p>
<p>Ultimately, however, Russ&#8217;s post shows that there is an enduring problem that can&#8217;t simply be solved by where we draw jurisdictional lines.  Is adult cannabis use harmful?  (No.)  Is stopping adult cannabis use a worthy use of limited law enforcement resources?  (No.)  In the end, these questions have to be resolved as a matter of policy and competing views have to do battle on the field of democratic deliberation.  So far we haven&#8217;t won that war yet.</p>
<p>I think the first thing is to convince people that we cannabis advocates also want to protect their children.  So we might have to say something like, &#8220;instead of coming down on 26 year olds who enjoy their spare time with Bud instead of Budweiser, we want to concentrate all our efforts on increased penalties and enforcement for dealing to kids.&#8221;  If we could convince people that this would be a MORE effective way to keep drugs out of kids&#8217; hands&#8211;e.g., increased vigilance/enforcement while turning weed into something boring that adults do, like wine&#8211;then we&#8217;d be half-way to victory.</p>
<p>Once we convince majorities that we&#8217;ll protect kids, it&#8217;s a simple step (I&#8217;m convinced) to say that prosecuting adults for use of cannabis is just a waste of resources that actually retards, and does not advance, public safety.</p>
<p>Marijuana is not meth.  It&#8217;s not coke.  It&#8217;s not PCP.</p>
<p>We need a realistic, sensible, efficient marijuana policies that respects adults&#8217; privacy and adults&#8217; choices.</p>
<p>Period.</p>
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		<title>By: "Radical" Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>"Radical" Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a great interview with Bill Rittenberg about the States Rights issue as it pertains to medical marijuana.  You can hear it at http://stash.norml.org/stash-for-thu-feb-28/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a great interview with Bill Rittenberg about the States Rights issue as it pertains to medical marijuana.  You can hear it at <a href="http://stash.norml.org/stash-for-thu-feb-28/" rel="nofollow">http://stash.norml.org/stash-for-thu-feb-28/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ganja blue</title>
		<link>http://stash.norml.org/worcester-massachusetts-wants-bigger-pot-penalties-than-question-2-allows/comment-page-1#comment-3752</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganja blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans will be the first to jump up and scream &quot;States Rights!&quot; when confronted with issues like gay marriage bans, abortion bans. They forget they were founded on a theory of antifederalism that cost the lives of 600,000 Americans. Don&#039;t misunderstand, American slavery was a holocaust, but every other civilized country abolished slavery without a civil war. 

Now we are in the midst of another civil war, one without principles or reason. A civil war between individual liberty and government control of the ability to alter your mind. In the drug war the state protects the state, the state reigns supreme and individual liberty is the underdog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans will be the first to jump up and scream &#8220;States Rights!&#8221; when confronted with issues like gay marriage bans, abortion bans. They forget they were founded on a theory of antifederalism that cost the lives of 600,000 Americans. Don&#8217;t misunderstand, American slavery was a holocaust, but every other civilized country abolished slavery without a civil war. </p>
<p>Now we are in the midst of another civil war, one without principles or reason. A civil war between individual liberty and government control of the ability to alter your mind. In the drug war the state protects the state, the state reigns supreme and individual liberty is the underdog.</p>
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		<title>By: norml.lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>norml.lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a giant confusing mess that reminds me of the Denver law.  I mean really who is correct here.  I think pot should be legal any where, everywhere... But if the federal government says its against the law than how can States say its legal or decriminalized if Federal law trumps State law.  This is all just a fucking mess... Give me a farm out in the country some where far away from all this mess.  Human law is corrupt.  There is said it!
z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a giant confusing mess that reminds me of the Denver law.  I mean really who is correct here.  I think pot should be legal any where, everywhere&#8230; But if the federal government says its against the law than how can States say its legal or decriminalized if Federal law trumps State law.  This is all just a fucking mess&#8230; Give me a farm out in the country some where far away from all this mess.  Human law is corrupt.  There is said it!<br />
z</p>
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